William Lloyd Barry, a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, died at a JAPANESE District Convention in Hawaii. He was fluent in Japanese since he once was a missionary in Japan in the 50's.
Alligator Wisdom
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The privileged Bethel speakers and the rest of us Jamokes.
by RULES & REGULATIONS incicero,illinois 1970's.
our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.. they were held at a horse race track in cicero,il in the smoking hot and humid month of july.
they charged around $2 for parking.
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Confidential Materials!
by Atlantis inall documents of important nature such as, our kingdom ministry, boe letters, forms, or other materials will now be sent only by email or private message communications.
they will not be posted out here on the board.
if someone else wants to post them, be my guest.. .. we have no other choice in this matter, and sending out confidential documents is better when it is done privately.
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Alligator Wisdom
PM sent! Thanks Atlantis
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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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Alligator Wisdom
Excellent opening post.
I can relate 100%, as I remember first stepping into a Kingdom Hall at 5 years of age.
I'm in the midst of locating my real identity now in my mid-40's. At first it was tragic. Now I try to view it as a wonderful journey. Being able to try something just a little different keeps my sanity in check.
Thanks again SIAM for putting in words what many of us feel.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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Holy Cow! A Mr. Falcon post! (persecution obsession)
by Mr. Falcon inyup.
let's begin.. i went to the kingdom hall yesterday for the first time in awhile.
the public talk was something like "trust in jehovah" and the speaker (whom i know personally and is a tad "off") was rambling on about the persecution that we are going to face imminently.
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Alligator Wisdom
Falcon,
I would like to know where you got that image of the early Christians in the Roman arena that you posted initially. It's the one with the mass of Christians huddled together with some impaled around the perimeter. Is this from a Watchtower publication? If so, would you mind letting me know?
I'm thinking of using this for future reference on a slightly different topic. Thanks!
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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The latest change in Watchtower vocabulary to catch out the unwary
by slimboyfat ini got a copy of the recent kingdom ministry the other day and it reminded me of something in the book the orwellian world of jehovha's witnesses by heather and garry botting.
it's on the front page of the december issue of the km, they have a heading called "not 'alternative' witnessing" where they explain that the term is no longer considered appropriate and "public" witnessing should be used instead.. in the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses the bottings discuss the importance of the particular language jws use to set themselves apart from other people.
they redefine common words to give them a particular slant, such as "brother", "sister", "literature" and so on.
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Alligator Wisdom
Circuit Overseer was called Circuit Servant back in the days.
In fact, one older brother still uses the term Circuit Servant and nobody has yet dared to correct him otherwise. This older brother is a Gilead graduate and of the annointed. Most of the congregation calls him "old school". He even identifies the Sunday Public Talks as sermons .
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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onacruise - Craig Mills 1952-2011
by Lady Lee ini was given the link to a bit of information regarding on old poster/moderator of this forum.
i was not sure of the validity of the information so have been trying to find out if it is true.. earlier today craig's estranged wife, kate, (bikerchic) confirmed that craig died at his home on aug 10, 2011.. i am sure that many people here remember craig's time here and how he went out of his way to offer support to posters, even calling them, to give whatever help he could as they adjusted to their post-jw lives.. i know many people here will grieve his loss.. --------------.
ps i tried posting this earlier but the computer i was working with would not allow the posts.
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Alligator Wisdom
I remember him clearly when I first started perusing this board almost a decade ago. May his family find strength and comfort in this difficult time.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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Undercover Brother Campaign- have you received your invite?
by stuckinamovement inwithout specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
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Alligator Wisdom
Please PM me the details. Thanks in advance.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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How active are you?
by free2beme inthey say that as a society, we are all getting fatter and fatter.
so i ask, how active are you?
if you took a snap shot of the last five days, can you find moments of exercise or doing something besides sitting in front of the computer, lifting a remote or fork, or perhaps walking to get the mail?
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Alligator Wisdom
I go to the gym twice a week (two hour workout weight resistance training each time). I ride my bike there (5 miles round trip). I walk to work/school twice a week (4 miles round trip). This has curbed my desire for junk food and I feel better at all levels (mentally, emotionally and physically). It has become addicting since the endorphins make me feel great. I lost 20 lbs since August last year and can easily fit into my ol' 32 inch waist Levi's 501 jeans.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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Want to quit Bible study
by confusedstudent inhi i was just looking for some advice.
i have been studying with the jw's for over a year now, and attended 2 memorials and the district/assembly conventions.
at first, and up until very recently i truly believed what i was learning was the truth.
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Alligator Wisdom
James_Woods said "The job has nothing really to do with this"
He is right.
However, I just thought that using this angle would be a nice easy "out" for you as you will be considered an "unprogressive Bible study". It will make it obvious to your study conductor or elder body in your congregation that you have your own agenda and there isn't anything that they can do about it.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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Want to quit Bible study
by confusedstudent inhi i was just looking for some advice.
i have been studying with the jw's for over a year now, and attended 2 memorials and the district/assembly conventions.
at first, and up until very recently i truly believed what i was learning was the truth.
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Alligator Wisdom
Living on base and using the provided services (commissary, PX, banks) are allowed by the Watchtower Society since you are a military dependant. This applies to all baptized sisters/children who are active publishers and are married/progeny to active duty military personnel. The only exemption is if the job is private baby sitting or private house cleaning. This is considered a private endeavor and isn't within the demographics of working for any entity that exists on base solely for the purpose of supporting the military.
You are studying with a Japanese sister in an English congregation, right?
Active sisters who are military wives may encourage you to get a job on base, but they do not know the reprecussions. However, do this. Ask any elder in your congregation about this and they will site the neutrality issue and will apply restrictions on anyone who isn't baptized (you) and will give an ultimatum to those who already are baptized. The time frame is six months for any baptized Jehovah's Witness to quit working on base if they wish to remain a Jehovah's Witness.
I know. I'm madly familiar with English congregations in Japan.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)